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22. How to do a Waste Audit with Zöe Serrano

Writer's picture: Meg CarneyMeg Carney



In episode 22 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, we discuss how to perform a waste audit in your home. Now, this same concept can be applied on a larger scale in businesses, but we are going to focus on how to do this as an individual consumer.


For those that aren't sure what a waste audit is, essentially, it is a survey of the waste created in any waste stream. So, of course, this is going to be larger for businesses and factories, but each individual also creates waste along the waste stream. I’ve found that evaluating the amount of waste you are actually producing is a good mental exercise.


It doesn’t mean that you have to or will even be able to eliminate waste completely in your life, but it can show you the amount of trash you produce on a day-to-day basis. In my life, I’ve found it helps prevent the “out of sight, out of mind” mindset. It keeps me accountable for how I handle my trash, but I also have to be mindful not to hyperfocus on perfection.


There’s a lot to unpack when it comes to waste audits, and that’s why I’m excited to have Zöe Serrano on the show to help explain it all in more detail.


Zöe Serrano is a recent college graduate and environmental activist who is living in Portland, Oregon. She currently runs a blog called Cut the Crap, which aims to provide accessible ways to both make sustainable changes, as well as realistically take action in the climate movement. Besides running her website, she enjoys hiking the beautiful Pacific Northwest, volunteering, and hanging out with her cats and husband. Zöe is moving into studying environmental policy, and is enjoying collaborating with other inspiring activists from all over the world.


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This transcript was edited to remove some filler words and phrases and is not verbatim according to what is spoken in the audio recording.



Meg: So, Zöe, thank you so much for taking the time to join me on the podcast today. I'm excited to learn more about your work in advocacy as well as your process for waste audits. But before we get into all of that, do you mind telling us a little bit more about how outdoor recreation fits into your life and what you like to do outside?


Zöe: Sure! Thanks so much for having me on the podcast. I’m so excited to get the opportunity to come and speak with you. Outdoor recreation—well, it’s honestly my saving grace when it comes to mental health, especially working in environmental advocacy. It’s a pretty overwhelming field to be in. I mean, as many of us know, just seeing the news or reading news stories can be a lot to handle.


For me, getting outside, disconnecting from technology, stepping away from all of my advocacy work, and just going on a nice walk to breathe the fresh air—that really is one of the few things that can calm me down and take my mind off everything else. Being outside is really my happy place.


As a child, I was the first person to talk to trees. I spent all of my time outside with a book, just connecting—feet on the ground, no shoes. That connection to being outside has always been special to me, and it’s become even more meaningful now that I’ve linked it with my advocacy work. I feel like they go hand in hand. Once you start understanding what you want to protect, you appreciate everything outside so much more—the plants, the animals, even the way the wind feels on your face.


So for me, getting out and hiking—especially now that I’m new to Oregon and exploring all the beautiful places it has to offer—has been so transformative for my mental health and easing my eco-anxiety.


Meg: That’s really awesome. I definitely identify with a lot of the things you’re explaining. I’m also new to the Pacific Northwest, and it’s just so beautiful.


Zöe: It’s so beautiful—it’s crazy!


Meg: So, how did you get involved in environmental advocacy? You said that you were really tuned in to nature as a child. Did that start really young, or is it a more recent pursuit?


Zöe: It definitely started young, but it grew as I got older. I’m a recent college graduate, and I got my degree in conservation biology. For four years, every single day was filled with learning about what’s happening to our planet. That knowledge really weighed on me. I started to feel super alone—like I was the only person who knew we were losing entire populations of plants and animals, glaciers were disappearing, and entire communities were being devastated by climate disasters.


Knowing these things and understanding that many of them are theoretically controllable left me feeling helpless. That’s really where my advocacy began—from that feeling of helplessness. I wanted to stand on the rooftops and scream about it, to help people understand what’s happening.


While it’s a scary issue, there are solutions. The answers are out there. The challenge is waking up and realizing that each of us can play a part. Our voices matter. When we unite and take action, real change is possible. It’s just that initial step of education and awareness that so often gets pushed to the back burner. I understand why—because it’s overwhelming—but it’s still something we need to bring forward.


Meg: That makes a lot of sense. The kind of advocacy you’re talking about seems pretty aligned with what I’m trying to do here. You and I first connected through your blog, Cut the Crap. Would you say that’s the main channel for your advocacy, or do you pursue it in other ways as well?


Zöe: Advocacy is definitely the main mission of my life, but right now, it’s more of a side job. It’s not what’s financially sustaining me, but it’s where my passion lies. I’d say my website, Cut the Crap, is my main channel.


I think of it as a sustainability toolbox—not just for myself, but for others too. Everything I publish there reflects projects I’m working on or things I’m researching. It’s kind of like a journal for myself that I want to share with the world. What works for me might help someone else out there.


Beyond my website, I’m involved in other advocacy projects too. The biggest one right now is leading a plastic committee for the Climate Reality Portland Chapter, which is part of the organization founded by Al Gore. We’re tackling single-use plastics in the Portland metro area by working with local cafes and restaurants to explore reusable options for to-go items.

We’re also empowering others to talk to their local coffee shops and restaurants about making sustainable changes. It’s all about scaling these solutions and spreading awareness throughout the community.


My day job is as a program coordinator for the Oregon Energy Fund, so I get to work on a lot of social issues there too. It’s overwhelming at times, but I like having my hands in different areas where we’re tackling problems—especially here in the U.S.


Meg: Wow, yeah, I feel like that gives you a really good big-picture perspective on a lot of the issues, and you're not really pigeonholed into one area.


I do have a question, though, about the type of advocacy you're doing. Is it more tailored towards zero waste and cutting back on waste in your life, like what you're working on with businesses and cafes in Portland?


Zöe: Yeah, it definitely follows along the lines of zero waste. I hesitate to say I’m only working on zero waste because realistically, we’re probably never going to see that as a lifestyle. I mean, zero waste is a really high goal. I don’t think we’re ever going to get rid of plastics entirely—we rely on them for a lot of necessary things. But what I’m trying to target is single-use items that we really don’t need. Unnecessary plastic waste, and unnecessary waste in general, is what I’m focusing on.


Through my blog, I really try to push forward advocacy resources so that people who are starting to understand the climate movement and environmental issues can take the next steps to get involved in community work. That’s the progression—once you feel comfortable and like your head’s on straight in this overwhelming climate movement, that’s when you’re best able to start being an advocate. You can start volunteering, using your voice, and spreading the message.


To me, that’s the most beautiful part of the transition—helping people get plugged in so they feel like all the overwhelming knowledge they’re carrying can actually be used for good. They don’t have to hold onto all this negativity and helplessness; they can channel it into making change and creating a better future for all of us. It’s just so beautiful to see people take that step.


Meg: That is definitely the best part of what you’re doing—seeing people make those changes and integrate them into their lives. But I completely agree that it’s so overwhelming to get started, especially because, in the U.S., and I know this is true elsewhere, we’ve been raised in a society built around creating waste.


It’s really hard to break those habits and form new patterns. But I’m curious—do you think the responsibility should fall more on individuals, or should it be directed toward corporations? That’s such a frequent debate, especially in zero-waste circles.


Zöe: That is a huge debate, and honestly, it’s the corporations. They are the ones that have systematically created processes to hook us into the waste cycle. We’re victims of advertising and societal norms that have been pushed on us.


That said, as individuals, our voices—and even more importantly, our money—are making a difference. We’re supporting the corporations, so once enough people realize that corporations are forcing us into these wasteful choices, we can unite and start diverting our money to businesses that prioritize sustainability.


When corporations see that we’re choosing to support sustainability, it sends the message:

"We hear you, and we want to change." And the companies that aren’t sustainable? They lose money. If they don’t have an audience supporting them, they’re in a position where they must change.


What’s so amazing to me is that individuals have the power to show corporations that change is necessary. It’s proof that we can make a difference when we unite. And I’m going to keep saying “unite” because right now, people all over the world feel so alone in this fight. They think they can’t make a difference, but we need to come together with a central message. Once we do that, it’s going to be like an explosion of change.


I think we’re getting close to that, especially as more people start to tune into what’s happening. When they see the visible effects of climate change in their own backyards, it’s harder to ignore. I think we’re going to see a lot of collective action in the next few years, with stronger, unified messages sent to corporations.


Meg: That’s so true. It really is about collective action. Being an individual navigating all of this can feel overwhelming, but when you think about the collective potential of others contributing in the same way, it gives you hope.


With that in mind, I’d love for you to share how people can get started. I think one of the biggest barriers is knowing where to begin. When you look at all the areas of your life creating waste, it’s overwhelming.


Let’s start with the basics—what is a waste audit?


Zöe: Yeah, that's perfect. A waste audit is a very broad term. How I like to describe it—or at least how I use it when I'm speaking to people—is that it really is just looking at the waste you're generating. It can be as intense or as simple as you want to make it.


For example, a lot of people conducting waste audits will collect their garbage for a certain period of time, and at the end of that time, they'll sort it, log it, and analyze the trends they notice. However, this isn’t super accessible to everyone. Not everyone wants to dump their trash out on the floor and start sorting it—definitely not the type of family bonding everyone is looking for! So, there are different ways to approach this.


What I like to do is log what I throw away over just a few days each month. For example, on the first day of the month, I'll keep track of everything I put into the garbage. Then, in the middle of the month, I'll pick another day and do the same thing. At the end of the month, I'll pick another day and repeat the process. Once the month is over, I can sit down and look at where the waste I generated came from.


For me personally, it’s always snacks. I'm a huge snacker, and I often don’t have a lot of time to cook homemade snacks. That’s the main area I like to target.


That said, waste audits work really well when paired with goal-setting. They allow you to dive into the personal choices you're making and quickly identify changes you can make in terms of lifestyle swaps.


For instance, since snacks are a challenge for me, I can set a goal to make homemade snacks or switch to fruits and veggies that I can buy without plastic, cut them up, and store them in jars for zero-waste snacks. You’re able to set goals, make lists, and identify what you can target, which can help you feel like you have more control over the process.


If you're just starting out and don’t even know where to begin, a waste audit is a great first step. It allows you to analyze your waste and identify areas where you can make changes.

A waste audit is also helpful for seeing what’s going into your garbage that could potentially be removed.


For example, are you throwing away items that your county or city actually recycles? Everyone’s recycling rules differ—some places recycle certain plastics, others don’t, or they may have specific requirements for glass. The first step is to research your local recycling guidelines.


A lot of people are surprised when they realize they’re throwing away items that could be recycled. For instance, they might discover that certain things can have another life instead of sitting in a landfill for 500 years.


Another surprising discovery is how much food waste people throw away—leftovers that didn’t get eaten or vegetables that went bad in the back of the fridge. Many people don’t realize they can use cooking scraps to create new recipes. This is another fun way to reduce waste and be more mindful about your habits.


Ultimately, a waste audit is not just about making swaps. It’s also about recognizing what simple changes, like re-sorting waste into the correct bins, can make a huge difference. What I love about waste audits is that they’re accessible to everyone. You can choose how intense to make the process and when to implement swaps. It’s not a commitment; it’s more about creating a list of goals and gradually working those changes into your lifestyle.


Meg: Where do you think is the easiest place for people to start? Do you think it’s with their kitchen garbage since so much of our waste comes from food packaging?


Zöe: Yeah, I think food packaging is a great place to start, especially because of the way grocery stores in the U.S. are set up. Almost everything is packaged—even loose vegetables sometimes! That’s just a reality for many families here in the U.S. unless they have access to bulk buying, package-free options, or farmer’s markets, which aren’t accessible to everyone.


For me, switching to a plant-based diet was the biggest game-changer. By basing my meals around vegetables, grains, and beans, I was able to reduce about 80% of the packaging I used for food. That’s a huge win. Snacking was another big area—starting to make my own snacks had a massive impact on my waste production.


It’s important to recognize that change doesn’t happen overnight. It’s a slow, continuous process. The beauty of a waste audit is that it starts a discussion in your home. You can sit down, visibly see what you’re working with, and start to make incremental changes.


People will also be surprised at how much their garbage bin decreases when they figure out what they can properly recycle. Many people throw everything straight into the garbage without considering if it’s recyclable. But as recycling capabilities increase across the U.S., especially in larger cities, there are more opportunities to divert waste.


I always encourage people to get the most up-to-date information about recycling in their area. Call your local environmental agency—they can point you in the right direction. I think people will be surprised at how much recycling has evolved, particularly for aluminum and, increasingly, plastics. These local solutions are a great way to make a difference and keep waste out of landfills.


Meg: Yeah, I'm really glad that you brought up the recycling piece because it is really important to find the appropriate resources so you're not overwhelming the recycling centers with improper materials and things that actually are trash.


You mentioned environmental agencies, but do most municipalities also list that on their website? Or are those environmental agencies the best place to find that info?


Zöe: Most places should have an up-to-date website with all the information for recycling and how to properly recycle. That’s definitely something they should offer. Unfortunately, I’ve come across people in smaller towns or counties who don’t have the resources to maintain a webpage with that level of detail. In those cases, I always recommend reaching out to environmental agencies because there’s typically someone working there who can help.


Personally, I worked for a water management organization located next to an environmental agency, so I know you can call them directly, and they’ll redirect you to the recycling resources you need.


Most counties and cities, though, do have comprehensive recycling plans. If you Google it, you’ll likely find a guide specific to your area. For example, my city has a great resource. They clearly explain the rules, like washing and rinsing items before recycling, and size restrictions for plastics.


They’ve made the information accessible and available in several languages, which is critical. Too many resources are only offered in English, which leaves out a significant portion of the population—people who want to recycle properly but aren’t provided with the tools to do so.


It’s definitely a growing process—making recycling and its information accessible and getting everyone on the same page. It’s about avoiding aspirational recycling, where people toss every piece of plastic or cardboard into the bin, hoping it can be recycled. Doing some research is a solid first step toward sorting your bins properly, which will naturally lead to thinking about broader goals and waste reduction habits.


Meg: And I’ve seen before that some waste management systems will mail out flyers or diagrams to help people understand what they can recycle and how to do it. Those infographics are so helpful as a visual reminder, especially when they’re stuck on the fridge, right where people sort their recycling.


Zöe: Exactly! I love when they send those out. I’ve seen people put them on their fridge, and I have to applaud that—it’s such a smart move. Every time you open your fridge, you’re reminded to think about recycling and check whether you’re doing it right. Having that resource handy is a game changer, especially when we’re rushing and don’t have time to think too much about it.


But again, accessibility is key. Not everyone is in a position to focus on this, and I just think it’s amazing when people who can take action start those conversations in their communities. That’s how larger change happens—by keeping the dialogue alive and inspiring others to learn and get involved.


Meg: That’s such an important point. I want to circle back to waste audits for a minute. You’ve mentioned a few times how forming positive habits takes practice and time. It’s so easy for people to try to do too much at once—whether it’s lowering their impact, going zero waste, or even going plant-based. They try to implement everything all at once, get overwhelmed, and give up.


Would you be able to walk us through a more specific example of a waste audit for someone just starting out? You’ve done a great job outlining how to do it, but I’d love to hear about the kinds of changes someone might make based on the results.


Zöe: Yeah, of course, of course.


On my website, I created four worksheets for a waste audit. These include reflection questions and waste reduction goal-setting exercises. When setting up a waste audit, I separate the columns into garbage, recycling, compost, and donation.


For example, in the garbage column, maybe someone has a lot of snack packaging or goes through tons of paper towels—like if they run a daycare, snacks and paper towels might dominate their garbage for the week. In the recycling column, it might be a bunch of glass juice bottles or cans of sparkling water. For compost, it could be veggie scraps—like broccoli stems or carrot tops—from meal prep.


Then, in the donation column, I encourage people to track items like appliances or clothes that don't need to go to the landfill. These items could be repaired or donated instead. For instance, if you have an appliance that could be fixed, you can try repairing it yourself, take it to a repair shop, or post it in a Buy Nothing group. These groups are amazing for sharing items for free, and people often love fixing things they get there.


Looking at this waste audit, you can start reflecting on what’s feasible to tackle. For example, if paper towels are in the garbage column but switching to cloth towels isn’t accessible right now—especially with certain guidelines, like during COVID—that’s okay. You could note that as a potential future change.


Maybe you decide to focus on snacks instead. Can you make granola bars or protein snacks at home? Can you incorporate more fruits and veggies instead of pre-packaged chips or fruit snacks?


The key is identifying what’s accessible for you right now. For some, there might be no room for change at the moment, and that’s valid too. Everyone’s life is different. For instance, a single mom might not have time to make all her snacks from scratch.


When it comes to recycling, a lot of it tends to be drink containers like glass or plastic bottles. There are alternatives, like a SodaStream, which lets you make sparkling water at home and reduce bottle waste. Or you could try making homemade juice or cutting out sparkling water altogether.


For compost, I get really excited because it can save money and reduce waste. Meal planning and saving veggie scraps can help you create new dishes. For example, I use scraps to make veggie broth, which I used to buy weekly. Carrot tops and green onions can be regrown on a windowsill—a fun activity for kids! You can also make recipes like broccoli fritters or broccoli soup using stems.


The point of a waste audit is to set realistic goals based on what’s accessible to you. It’s different for everyone. Not everyone can afford to pay an outside company to monitor their waste, but everyone can start by looking at their output and committing to small, manageable changes. Even making one swap a month can be impactful and less overwhelming than you think.


I have worksheets on my website to help with this—reflection and goal-setting sheets, plus a list of sustainable swaps for every category. There are so many alternatives out there; it’s just about finding what works for you.


Meg: Yeah, and I think that’s an important distinction—it’s a very personal journey. You might follow influencers who promote low-waste lifestyles, but what works for them might not work for you, or your neighbor. I’ll share links to your worksheets for anyone interested.


Your waste audit reminds me of an exercise in my Outdoor Minimalist book coming out in September. It’s about integrating waste audits into outdoor lifestyles. For example, zero-waste backpacking is nearly impossible because you need non-perishable snacks, which are usually packaged.


The approach is similar to what you described. After a trip, you can lay out three days’ worth of trash to examine it. Do you have tips for people applying this waste audit to their outdoor recreation? You can focus on food or gear, whatever feels relevant.


Zöe: I think the main thing is to allow yourself breaks—especially with backpacking, where snack packaging is hard to avoid. Unless you have time to dehydrate fruits or buy bulk nuts, the waste generated is usually minimal and a one-off. As long as you’re packing everything in and out, that’s what matters most.


To make a bigger impact, consider buying second-hand gear. There are so many stores and websites offering repaired or gently used gear in like-new condition. It keeps items out of landfills and reduces your overall footprint.


Of course, safety is the priority, so buy gear that keeps you comfortable. But in other areas, just having an eco-conscious mindset while making decisions can make a difference.


For food, dehydrating fruits or nuts is a great way to pack zero-waste snacks. But if that’s not feasible, it’s okay to bring a granola bar. Just be conscious of other purchases for your trip.

The goal is to tread a little lighter on the Earth. It’s not about perfection—it’s about making conscious choices where you can. No one can achieve zero waste in every area, but being mindful and making swaps when possible can lead to meaningful change.


Meg: Yeah, finding that balance is really important. Maybe for some people, because outdoor recreation isn’t a daily activity, that could be an easier place to start and reevaluate—it might feel less overwhelming. But like you said before, it’s a very individual process.


I think we’ve talked a lot about individuals, but I also want to touch on how waste audits can fit into a business model, no matter the size of the company. What types of resources or concepts would you recommend for business owners who want to incorporate waste auditing or waste reduction into their business practices?


Zöe: I love that you bring this up because businesses have a responsibility to monitor the type of waste they’re generating. That’s just part of being a producer of consumer goods. As individuals, we deserve respect from businesses, and part of that respect is businesses taking accountability for the waste they create.


A waste audit can be so beneficial for businesses—it can maximize operations, reveal cost savings, and measure the success of sustainability measures already in place. What’s great is that there are companies all over the U.S. that specialize in conducting waste audits for businesses. These outside organizations come in and provide real data on changes that can be made. This way, it’s not up to the business’s employees to sort through trash, which, let’s face it, isn’t something most employees would be eager to do.


It’s wonderful because these waste audit companies help businesses identify where they can cut back on packaging, reduce inventory loss, and save money—almost every time. Many businesses experience unnecessary losses in so many areas, and waste audits help identify and address those issues.


On top of that, individuals within a business can also participate in waste audits. I worked for a water management organization that conducted a three-year project where they randomly audited employees’ garbage and recycling bins at their desks. Each month, they presented the teams with the results, and it became a bit competitive. Everyone wanted to be the least wasteful team. Over the three years, they nearly eliminated all waste, improved recycling practices, and employees reported feeling really satisfied with the process.


What’s beautiful is that individuals take pride in making a difference. Not only does the business save money and improve operations, but employees feel they’re contributing to something meaningful. I think every business should include waste audits in their policies and procedures—maybe not every year, but at least every couple of years.


There are so many businesses now that specialize in conducting these audits. I didn’t even realize this was an option until a couple of years ago—I thought all businesses handled it themselves. But if you Google “waste audit companies” in your city, you’re likely to find several options. It’s becoming a big field because there’s a growing need to assess and change what we’re generating.


I think waste audits will become more of a standard for businesses, especially as they pursue certifications like LEED. Becoming a sustainable business is turning into a badge of honor, which is amazing. It’s great to see the pressure on businesses to incorporate sustainability and be transparent. I’m excited to see how this evolves—how businesses step up to take responsibility and involve employees in the journey. That’s going to be beneficial for everyone in the long run.


Meg: And wouldn’t it be great if being sustainable was just the standard? If companies didn’t have to jump through hoops to show that?


Zöe: Exactly! But I appreciate that we’re seeing a dramatic shift in that direction and more transparency around processes—from resource extraction to disposal.


Meg: I love that. What other resources do you have for people? I’ll share the link to your website and the worksheets you shared with us, but do you have additional resources for individuals or businesses?


Zöe: There’s so much online. You can watch videos, listen to podcasts—everyone has their own spin on how to approach waste audits. The key takeaway is that this isn’t about committing to something right away; it’s about goal setting.


For resources, I think joining online groups and following sustainable influencers is really important. It provides a constant flow of information and resources that you can engage with whenever you have the mental space. Most people use social media daily, so I went on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and followed a bunch of accounts focused on sustainability.

Now, when I’m scrolling, I can choose to interact with a sustainable swap, a piece of science, or some news—but I’m not obligated to. It’s a manageable way to stay informed.


Joining online groups is critical too. Once you get involved in the climate movement, it’s easy to feel alone or like no one understands what you’re going through. Whether it’s on Facebook, Meetup, or even Nextdoor, connecting with others is so important. It gives you someone to talk to about your feelings and experiences. Otherwise, you risk burning out or disengaging completely, which is understandable—it can be overwhelming.


If you can stay plugged into supportive communities and keep a manageable flow of information, it’s easier to avoid that sense of overwhelm. You can ease into the movement on your own timeline and feel more grounded. It’s much better than trying to consume everything at once, like watching eight documentaries in a row.


It’s all about balance and taking small, intentional steps. Once you connect with the right communities, you’ll have a support system and access to information that’s easier to digest. Social media has made this so much more accessible, which is great.


When I started, I was reading dense scientific journals, which was a much tougher way to enter the movement. I encourage people to ease in instead of diving in headfirst. Build a solid foundation, and you’ll be more equipped to make meaningful changes.


Meg: Yeah, those are all really, really approachable suggestions, and they're easy for people to integrate. Then they can kind of introduce little pieces, little bits here and there, as they grow on their journey. I will say, in my own life, I really do love the online communities. I think I started getting more involved in those during COVID because they’re just a stellar place to ask questions.


There are so many people experiencing the same issues as you. Not only can you find really great answers, but it also helps you feel a little less alone in having those kinds of questions.


Sometimes you wonder, “Is this a silly question? I don’t know.” Then you post it in one of those groups or discussion boards and realize there are probably hundreds of other people—okay, maybe not hundreds every time, but at least one or two—who are wondering the exact same thing. They’ll be excited that someone decided to ask!


With all that information, I think there are a lot of great takeaways from what you’ve shared today. But how can people follow along with you, find your blog, and connect with your social channels?


Zöe: Yeah, definitely! People can find my blog online at www.cuthecrap.org. Cut the Crap is my main website. Be on the lookout for some book clubs starting soon! We’re going to have some DIY workshops that people can get involved in.


When you go to the website, you can sign up for the newsletter—there’ll be a little pop-up. That’s a great way to stay connected. We send out a monthly resource guide, which I hope people will refer back to throughout the month. It’s packed with books, podcasts, films, job listings, and so much more. I try to make it a resource-rich newsletter, sent just once a month, so I’m not bombarding you with emails.


For social media, my Instagram handle is @keep_cuttingthecrap. I post some great things on there—tutorials, graphics—it’s a fantastic way to stay up to date with our events.


Our Facebook page is facebook.com/keepcuttingthecrap, where you can connect with us as well.


The website will be the most active place to stay connected with us, but we’ll also post events on Instagram and Facebook. It’s just me running the team right now, but I’m hoping to keep growing and get more resources and events out there for people to connect with and take action in their lives and communities.


Meg: Awesome! Well, thank you so much for sharing all of that with us. I hope people find a lot of value in what you had to say. I’ll put all the links to your social channels as well as your website in the show notes. If someone’s driving or busy, they can check that out later. Thanks again for being on the show!


Zöe: Thanks so much!






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